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Remaking the Exceptional Podcast


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Remaking the Exceptional Podcast


Through the voices of torture survivors and activists, the Remaking the Exceptional podcast highlights connections between policing and incarceration in Chicago and the human rights violations of the Global War on Terror, while also celebrating the struggle for justice and reparations.

Sitting, sipping, and reflecting over a cup of tea with others can create the space for conversations on difficult and at times painful subjects. It also can create opportunities to envision a new set of social relations. 

Episode 1 launches on January 11, 2022, marking the 20th year since the opening of the United States extralegal prison in Guantánamo.

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Google, or Amazon.

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Episode 1 Tea, Tenderness, and Torture


Episode 1 Tea, Tenderness, and Torture


The setting for this first episode, “Tea, Tenderness, and Torture” is inside Badr Ahmed’s* drawing of a table set for tea with no one there. We enter Ahmed's drawing to join an imagined gathering of Chicago police torture survivors and  Guantánamo torture survivors over tea. Connections emerge as Anthony Holmes, Moazzam Begg, Kilroy Watkins, Mohamedou Ould Slahi, Ronnie Kitchen, Sabri al-Qurashi, La Tanya Jenifor-Sublett, and Mansoor Adayfi introduce themselves and speak about their experiences.

*Badr Ahmed is currently imprisoned at the extralegal military prison at Guantánamo despite being cleared for release.


Banner image caption: Badr Ahmed, Untitled, 2015

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Episode 2 Maps, Memory and Violence


Episode 2 Maps, Memory and Violence


The setting for this second episode, “Maps, Memory and Violence” is inside Khalid Qasim’s* painting of a robust fire burning below a white box, an air conditioner, attached to a completely black wall. This high contrast painting documenting torture sets the stage for a conversation between torture survivors Anthony Holmes, Moazzam Begg, Kilroy Watkins, Mohamedou Ould Slahi, Ronnie Kitchen, Sabri al-Qurashi, La Tanya Jenifor-Sublett, and Mansoor Adayfi that exposes the way torture practices extend across time, space, and conflict. Specific attention is brought to Chicago police officer and Navy Reserve Lt. Richard Zuly whose torture habits establish direct connections between torture in Chicago and Guantánamo. Simultaneously, what emerges as exceptional is the creativity and resilience of survivors.

* Khalid Qasim is currently imprisoned at the extralegal military prison at Guantánamo despite being cleared for release.


Image Caption: Khalid Qasim, Untitled, 2016

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Episode 3 Poetry, Resilience, and Resistance


Episode 3 Poetry, Resilience, and Resistance


 The setting for episode three, “Poetry, Resilience, and Resistance” is inside Khalid Quasim’s* painting of a landscape framed by a house with a courtyard. The scene is from Khalid’s memories of his home in Yemen. The painting afforded Khalid a means, if only temporary, of being transported beyond the confines of Guantanamo where he is still currently extralegally imprisoned. With this in mind and with a cup of tea in hand we invite you to a conversation on the way art functions as a technology of resistance.

* Khalid Qasim is currently imprisoned at the extralegal military prison at Guantánamo despite being cleared for release.


Image Caption: Khalid Qasim, Untitled, 2016

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Episode 4 Ships, Contradictions, and Confinement


Episode 4 Ships, Contradictions, and Confinement


 The setting for episode four, “Ships, Contradictions and Confinement”, is inside Sabri al-Qurashi’s* painting of a ship in the middle of a chaotic storm. This tumultuous painting with bold brush strokes sets the stage for a conversation with torture survivors on the connections between the local and international torture practices. Specific attention is brought to the police to military and military to police pipeline. Simultaneously, what emerges are the acts of resistance that create space for international solidarity.

* Sabri al-Qurashi was extralegally imprisoned for 12 years at Guantánamo before being transferred to Kazakhstan.


Image Caption: Sabri al-Qurashi , Untitled, 2012.

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Episode 5 Trees, Solidarity, and Struggle


Episode 5 Trees, Solidarity, and Struggle


 The setting for episode Five, “Trees Solidarity and Struggle” is inside Muhammad Ansi’s* painting of a leafless tree blowing in a powerful firestorm. The tree is still rooted, still standing. Ansi made this painting inside Guantanamo where he has been extralegally imprisoned for 15 years. With this in mind, over a cup of tea, we invite you into Ansi painting to join a conversation on the meaning of justice. 

* Muhammad Ansi was extralegally imprisoned at Guantánamo for nearly 15 years before being released to Oman.


Image Caption: Muhammad Ansi, Untitled, 2015.

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Episode 6 Flowers, Freedom and Justice


Episode 6 Flowers, Freedom and Justice


 The setting for episode six, “Flowers, Freedom and Justice” is inside Djamel Ameziane’s* drawing of a sprig of greenery. Each leaf delicately crafted, sits in a shining silver pitcher framed by a deep indigo wall. Djamel made this drawing inside Guantanamo where he was extralegally imprisoned for nearly 12 years. The bright reflection on the pitcher inspires us to reflect on all the experiences, struggles and dreams shared throughout this podcast and the need for justice, restorations, reconciliation, and reparations. With this in mind, over a cup of tea, we invite you into Djamel’s drawing to join a conversation on the meaning of reparations.

* Djamel Ameziane was extralegally imprisoned for more than 11 years at Guantánamo before being released.


Image Caption: Djamel Ameziane, Untitled, 2010.

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Credits & Thanks


Credits & Thanks


 Remaking the Exceptional podcast is produced by Amber Ginsburg, Nate Sandberg, and Aaron Hughes.

From March 10 through August 7, 2022, artworks featured in the podcast are on view in the Remaking the Exceptional: Tea, Torture, and Reparations exhibition at DePaul Art Museum.

Special thanks to Anthony Holmes, Moazzam Begg, Kilroy Watkins, Mohamedou Ould Slahi, Ronnie Kitchen, Sabri al-Qurashi, La Tanya Jenifor-Sublett, and Mansoor Adayfi for sharing their stories.

Featured Cello music was contributed by Maestro Karim Wasfi from his 2019 Poetry Despite/Music Despite (Eternal War Requiem) recordings. For more information on those recordings and to listen visit poetrydespite.online

Additional music, audio editing, and audio design by Nate Sandberg.

The Remaking the Exceptional podcast is supported by an Illinois Humanities, Envisioning Justice, 2021 Humanist Grant. More info and to partispate in the RE:ACTION exhibition visit envisioningjustice.org/exhibitions/the-tea-project

Research and research support for Remaking the Exceptional by Maira Khwaja from the Invisible Institute and Valli Perrera, Margaret Kates, Kelly Milan, Alex Shur and Marie Mendoza from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.

Additional thanks to Alice Kim, Sarah Ross, and Joey Mogul for support and mentorship.